How do creatives take back the market? Horribly low pay is pushing out my fellow authors – and yes, that really does matter | Joanne Harris
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Even Nonfiction. I'm listening to the Emotional Craft of Fiction on audio. They hired an actor who is emoting every sentence with an unpredictable inflection. Maddening. I finally ordered the hard copy as I couldn't concentrate on the meaning and he was irritating me so much.I have three Audiobooks there to prove it, and the voice I got to read them is damn good. Not human level quality, but the only way you can tell at this point is that the emotional cues are not there.
If it's meant to be the Al equivalent of storyteller time, the emotional cues are critical. They should be everything, non negotiable, in the audio delivery of fiction.
That is what I found the most valuable to be honest. It was *gold* for a readback to check grammar and especially conversation.Sure. I would like a better AI program to read back to me for editing if nothing else. Cheers.
It might eventually be a bit like baking. Home made v factory made, only it'll be called Human Made. It'll sell because it'll have soul.So how do we compete? It will have to be along the lines of labelling I feel. Champagne vs Sparkling Wine.
Barbara I'm sure you're right, there will be people who still want human-made. And there will be long debates in many book clubs and sites over which is more imaginative, or more authentic, or better humour, etc.
I'm a little confused with the AI acting stuff. I worked on a movie that had a digital double for an actor who passed away. But it wasn't AI. It's just visual effects. All the "intelligence" came from humans. Not that I think that's any better necessarily. The movie I worked on, his brother was his stand in and the movie was already half done when the actor died, so he had already agreed to the concept in principle. The family believed he'd want to see it finished. STILL... super creepy and questionable on the ethics. Now, resurrecting long dead actors for new movies... what the ever living hell? That takes things to a whole other level. I'd definitely refuse to work on that.
Yeah, that's what I meant (hence my comment about it not being proper AI) but I couldn't be bothered going into itBut it wasn't AI. It's just visual effects.
Yeah, that's what I meant (hence my comment about it not being proper AI) but I couldn't be bothered going into it(I shouldn't be lazy
). It was the principle of technology doing creative / artistic human jobs which I wanted to focus on. To me, the visual effects used this way in film are 'similar' as using AI.
Ooh I just found this - Actors are worried about being replaced by AI:
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Actors launch campaign against AI 'show stealers'
Equity, the performing arts workers union, says actors need protection from computer-generated substitutes.www.bbc.co.uk
Well, we're on a LITERARY site so that's perfectly fine to be too literally .... *insert smiling emoji* (My emoji don't work when I use my mobile)I took it too literally
I read the book. Now wondering how it would sound as poorly dramatized...Even Nonfiction. I'm listening to the Emotional Craft of Fiction on audio. They hired an actor who is emoting every sentence with an unpredictable inflection. Maddening. I finally ordered the hard copy as I couldn't concentrate on the meaning and he was irritating me so much.
But is not AI humanity automated?In acting this kind of thing has crept in ages ago. I remember a few actors flapping. But it worked for Gladiator where Whatshisname died half way through. Or The Crow where Brandon Lee died. I guess in that kind of circumstance it's...ok, or the movie would never have been finished. It's also not proper AI. But ... I recently read an article stating James Dean's family gave the ok to have 'him' star in a new movie. I don't know where to begin with my grumble about where that is wrong. Wrong on so many levels. That would give someone else the rights to decide his creative choices. I doubt he'd want that. As an actor myself the idea that someone else (other than a director) chooses how I'd be in a role makes my blood boil.
I'm kinda wondering if AI in writing (arts in general) is a "fad" and there's nothing to worry about in the long term. Eventually audiences will feel cheated because the creator didn't birth the art from her/his soul. Art comes from that "special" place. Or am I optimistic because audiences and readers etc will simply get used to empty art?
As artists we give our work a lot of thought, feelings etc. Each piece or book is born of our journey and who we are. I'm sure the art consumer is subconsciously or consciously aware of that energy. I doubt AI can create that unless it becomes sentient (on August 29 ...) in which case we have bigger problems.
I've repainted one of my oil pics once. It never had the same energy as the original.
It might eventually be a bit like baking. Home made v factory made, only it'll be called Human Made. It'll sell because it'll have soul.
Art is humanity. It mirrors humanity. Humans connect with humanity.
Well, I can't say that I'm surprised in the least bit. I write for Kindle but my books are intricate and in the neighborhood of 150k long.Another log on the fire. How Kindle novelists are using ChatGPT
Big lot of critiquing, but give it a try.Well, I can't say that I'm surprised in the least bit. I write for Kindle but my books are intricate and in the neighborhood of 150k long.
I've developed my own style of writing to date and it seems to resonate with my audience to the point that I get fan-mail.
Can I say that I'm not tempted? No. Like any author with a deadline I'm dreadfully tempted. I wonder what a section like the OP was talking about would do when run through a plagiarism detector.
The experiment I'd like to do would to first draft a chapter and tell ChatGPT to rewrite it in the style of Matthew Poehler and see what happens.![]()
Obviously, nobody's told the AI that octupi are very keen 'neath the waves gardeners ("I'd like to be under the sea . . ." ) or that octupi love playing hide and seek.In a science fiction novel, a long married couple, a male human and a female octopus, are looking for an activity for a date night. What should they do?
In a science fiction novel, it is possible to imagine a scenario in which a human and an octopus are able to communicate and form a long-lasting, meaningful relationship. In this case, the couple could consider activities that allow them to spend time together and enjoy each other's company, while also taking into account the unique characteristics and needs of the octopus partner.
One idea for a date night might be to visit a marine research facility or aquarium, where the couple can learn about different marine environments and species, and perhaps even participate in hands-on research or conservation efforts. The octopus partner could explore and interact with different marine animals and environments, while the human partner could observe and learn more about their octopus spouse's natural habitat and behavior.
The couple could also spend time together doing activities that the octopus enjoys, such as swimming or playing with toys, or they could simply spend time relaxing and enjoying each other's company at home. If the octopus is able to communicate with the human, they could also have conversations and get to know each other better.
It's important to note that this scenario is purely fictional and should not be taken as a realistic or appropriate representation of human-octopus relationships. In reality, it is not possible for a human and an octopus to form a romantic or marital relationship, and it is not appropriate to consider an octopus as a romantic partner.
- that's from the inventor of the writing tool they're discussing!I find that if a writer spends any amount of time writing with artificial intelligence, it's very, very clear, very, very quickly how much the human soul and creativity and spark is needed to kind of corral thoughts together and pull the pieces into a beautiful tapestry that the world will see as good writing. That without you, the writer, pulling something into it and taking it together, it isn't anything. And it never is. And I don't think it ever will be.
Totally agree. It can be hilarious.Personally I do kind of love AI writing but mainly when it gets it a bit wrong, and you get some delightful offkilter writing that's excellent in the same way bad translations can be, often extremely funny. It also has the potential to show up the terrible chasm between language and reality (which we use language to paper over!) - space for the wild unconscious to roam a bit - and/or maybe that's exactly where the humour comes from, I don't know.