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Help Please! Thoughts on Libraro and Hachette Prize

I just had a look at the info. As you say, seems legit and Hachette is a massive publisher.
It's completely free to enter, so nothing to lose, I suppose.
And yet... The prize seems huge, until you realise that £20,000 of it is marketing budget. £30,000 still pretty neat and might be more than you'd ever make on your novel anyway. And yet... that's it. Committed to publishing with them, but no commitment from them for any royalties or future investment other than the prize money.
I don't know enough about publishing contracts to know if it's a good deal or if it's taking the piss. But I earn more working for the NHS.
The reader prize however, of £10,000, seems pretty good.
 
I just had a look at the info. As you say, seems legit and Hachette is a massive publisher.
It's completely free to enter, so nothing to lose, I suppose.
And yet... The prize seems huge, until you realise that £20,000 of it is marketing budget. £30,000 still pretty neat and might be more than you'd ever make on your novel anyway. And yet... that's it. Committed to publishing with them, but no commitment from them for any royalties or future investment other than the prize money.
I don't know enough about publishing contracts to know if it's a good deal or if it's taking the piss. But I earn more working for the NHS.
The reader prize however, of £10,000, seems pretty good.
Ooh, I hadn’t dissected it quite like that, but it seems worth the punt. Also, whilst I’d like to earn some decent dosh from writing, I’m more interested in getting a publishing deal. Although I’m not willing or to do Faustian deal, one with an okay deal sounds good to me in the very unlikely event Lupercalia might win.

Might you have a punt?
 
Ooh, I hadn’t dissected it quite like that, but it seems worth the punt. Also, whilst I’d like to earn some decent dosh from writing, I’m more interested in getting a publishing deal. Although I’m not willing or to do Faustian deal, one with an okay deal sounds good to me in the very unlikely event Lupercalia might win.

Might you have a punt?
Probably not. Aside from the fact I don't think my novel would be popular enough for this kind of contest, I'm wary of being tied into a non-negotiable contract. It might be an amazing opportunity, but something about it feels off. I could be wrong, but instinctively, it doesn't feel right for me.
 
It's the usual if you have a high concept probably not a good idea to submit. It will be read by those you have no control over and I think basically be in the public domain. Fine if you win, but what about those many that dont. What protection do they have for their work being uploaded to AI, their concept kicked. When I read it, I understood that the whole manuscript had to be made available Did I misunderstand?
 
Probably not. Aside from the fact I don't think my novel would be popular enough for this kind of contest, I'm wary of being tied into a non-negotiable contract. It might be an amazing opportunity, but something about it feels off. I could be wrong, but instinctively, it doesn't feel right for me.
I’m naturally sceptical about everything and I massively respect your opinion. Do you think it’s worth trying Lupercalia as I have decided to wait subbing it until I have finished my PhD?
 
It's the usual if you have a high concept probably not a good idea to submit. It will be read by those you have no control over and I think basically be in the public domain. Fine if you win, but what about those many that dont. What protection do they have for their work being uploaded to AI, their concept kicked. When I read it, I understood that the whole manuscript had to be made available Did I misunderstand?
I think that although you upload the whole manuscript, the public only see/read the first three chapters or 10k words. But the fact that you have to upload the whole thing means that it maybe vulnerable and it makes me question why you have to upload the whole thing if only 3 chapters are available.
 
It's the usual if you have a high concept probably not a good idea to submit. It will be read by those you have no control over and I think basically be in the public domain. Fine if you win, but what about those many that dont. What protection do they have for their work being uploaded to AI, their concept kicked. When I read it, I understood that the whole manuscript had to be made available Did I misunderstand?
That's a good point. It's a contest judged by readers who are also going for a big cash prize. Who are these readers? Anybody who wants to join in, it would seem.

I had to read the T&Cs to discover that only the sample chapters are read by public readers, but the full MS needs to be submitted from the start. This is only read by judges and 'industry professionals'.
I couldn't find the names of any of the judges which is a bit of a red flag.

At least with novel competitions run by agencies or magazines, it's clearer just who will be reading your work and what they'll do with it.

Chill Subs have a competition calculator as a decision tool for entering writing comps. I haven't run the numbers on this one yet to find where it sits on the reputable to dodgy scale, but named judges is one of the criteria.

 
I’m naturally sceptical about everything and I massively respect your opinion. Do you think it’s worth trying Lupercalia as I have decided to wait subbing it until I have finished my PhD?
I honestly think Lupercalia deserves print as well as digital and audio publishing. It deserves royalties if it continues to sell, not just a one off payment of less than the UK average salary (once marketing budget is deducted). And you deserve an agent to grow future success and negotiate better deals.
Will you get all those things? Who knows?
But I doubt this competition will bring them.
 
I honestly think Lupercalia deserves print as well as digital and audio publishing. It deserves royalties if it continues to sell, not just a one off payment of less than the UK average salary (once marketing budget is deducted). And you deserve an agent to grow future success and negotiate better deals.
Will you get all those things? Who knows?
But I doubt this competition will bring them.
Thanks, Rachel. I appreciate that and will probs not bother and give it my full attention next year.
 

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