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[Pamela Jo]

Perhaps just an example of what you get as membership in Litopia for free-but I like Blue Pencil. I think they are in the same league as TYM, though not her caliber. Sterling 45.00. Two Hours

Revising & Editing Your Novel – November 30, 2023 - Blue Pencil Agency: Novel Editorial Services, Retreats, Workshops

Craft Tutorials: Editing Your Novel – a Zoom workshop with writing tutor Emma Darwin, on November 30, 6:00 - 8:00 GMT.

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[AgentPete]

TYM's book "Intuitive Editing" is on our Writers' Reading List 2024. Ten bucks on Kindle. Better value than the above, I'll be bound.

Intuitive Editing by Tiffany Yates Martin

Our Summary Everything you could possibly need to know to get your manuscript to submission or self-publishing standards. What I Learned From It This book is gold dust. Made me think objectively about…

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[Hannah F]

£45! I'm not even going to bother reading past the blue title!

 

[AgentPete]

£45! I'm not even going to bother reading past the blue title!

If you think how little information it’s possible to squeeze into a 2-hour seminar, and then compare it to the treasure-trove of info contained inside a book, there’s no comparison.

Seminars can work in other ways, though (which is why I do them). But for imparting information, books win hands-down.

 

[Pamela Jo]

If you think how little information it’s possible to squeeze into a 2-hour seminar, and then compare it to the treasure-trove of info contained inside a book, there’s no comparison.

Seminars can work in other ways, though (which is why I do them). But for imparting information, books win hands-down.

Cant disagree, but it is set up where you can submit your own work for feedback and participate. A bit like a Huddle from the sound of it. On the other hand TYM's courses are around 25.00 US. I'm taking one on self-publish or hybrid from Jane Friedman. Also under 30.00 US

 

[Peyton Stafford]

Just curious. I start writing at 0600 and continue until 1000 before moving on to editorial and professional development, including Litopia. At noon, I try to switch into business mode and deal with the rest of life. How do other Litopians fit in time for TYM and her ilk?

 

[AnnieSummerlee]

Just curious. I start writing at 0600 and continue until 1000 before moving on to editorial and professional development, including Litopia. At noon, I try to switch into business mode and deal with the rest of life. How do other Litopians fit in time for TYM and her ilk?

I count any "craft" reading as part of my revision time. If you find a book or seminar that works for you, it'll usually expedite the process anyway because you won't waste as much time editing the "wrong" way. Some people will rely entirely on feedback from others but I think it helps to have a "theory" based perspective too.

 

[AgentPete]

Just curious. I start writing at 0600 and continue until 1000 before moving on to editorial and professional development, including Litopia. At noon, I try to switch into business mode and deal with the rest of life. How do other Litopians fit in time for TYM and her ilk?

That’s pretty disciplined, Peyton. Curious as to how it arose – have you always been as focused? Impressive.

 

[Peyton Stafford]

Yes. How does anyone get anything done without focusing? Or am I missing something?

 

[AgentPete]

Yes. How does anyone get anything done without focusing? Or am I missing something?

Quite right.

I worry that the internet (or large parts of it) are almost totally defocusing us, particularity young folk. If you read the recent lawsuit against Zuckerberg, you’ll see how deep and how cynical these people are. They will go to any lengths to distract you.

I became aware of this a few years ago when I read that games makers were employing behavioural psychologists to make their games more distracting, more addictive. Pretty evil stuff, really. Feels like mind warfare.

 

[Pamela Jo]

Yes. How does anyone get anything done without focusing? Or am I missing something?

Um, You are assuming the rest of us get shit done.

 

[AnnieSummerlee]

I procrastinated so hard on my previous project that I wrote a new one just to distract myself and as some of you know, that procrastination paid off big time

Um, You are assuming the rest of us get shit done. View attachment 17078

 

[Hannah F]

I procrastinated so hard on my previous project that I wrote a new one just to distract myself and as some of you know, that procrastination paid off big time

Gee. My procrastination starts . . . NOW!

 

[Pamela Jo]

Gee. My procrastination starts . . . NOW!

Cup of tea first? There's always time to procrastinate, later.

 

[Peyton Stafford]

That’s pretty disciplined, Peyton. Curious as to how it arose – have you always been as focused? Impressive.

It's not so much a voluntary effort to focus as ambition-driven obsession.

 

[Pamela Jo]

It's not so much a voluntary effort to focus as ambition-driven obsession.

 

[Peyton Stafford]

I have no comment except no comment. I did my best.

 

[Pamela Jo]

Just bailing on the Jane Friedman lecture. Her version of hybrid is what I call vanity press. You have to pay starting at 25 K. Disappointed. Why is that topic even worth discussing. Just tell people to stay the hell away.