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Here´s another question for you. How many of you here write with the intention of making it your future modus viviendi. You, know, become a full time writer. And how many of you just do it for fun?
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My attitude towards writing is that it's a joy for life, whether I get paid or not. Think of all of the other things that you do for pleasure - how much would getting paid for them add to your enjoyment?
A famous American radio disc jockey of the 1960s and 1970s, who went by the name of Wolfman Jack, once said something about his attitude to his job:
'I never work, I vacation all of the time.'
I try to adopt this attitude towards my writing, though I deny that I look like the Wolfman (except on full moons).
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At the moment, writing is a past time, one that i enjoy. If my first book becomes a success, i may decide to make it a full time career, or at least more than a hobby.
My attitude towards writing is that it's a joy for life, whether I get paid or not. Think of all of the other things that you do for pleasure - how much would getting paid for them add to your enjoyment?
A famous American radio disc jockey of the 1960s and 1970s, who went by the name of Wolfman Jack, once said something about his attitude to his job:
'I never work, I vacation all of the time.'
I try to adopt this attitude towards my writing, though I deny that I look like the Wolfman (except on full moons).
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My intention is to make this my sole source of income which is why I push myself so hard, but at the same time it has to be fun for me or there's point in doing it.
That's a good way to look at itI am writing with the intention of publishing and being paid for it, but I have vowed always to have a different "primary" job. I don't want writing to be a job, and I enjoy having all the time I want to write and pursue publishing, with no fear that I have to churn it out for a paycheck. I haven't written in a couple months — devoting time to Litopia, beta-reading, and have gotten an "author's Twitter" up and running. I couldn't have done much of this if I had to get a chapter written a day to publish by October to pay the rent. But I will always write and pursue a publishing deal.
I wrote for fun for many years. For many more years after that, I tried to write for money, and made none. Now I can do neither.
Don't say that, I only get a few hours at a time here or there dotted throughout the week. It's more about nor stressing over your writing I think, and allowing it to flow, because then you will write LOADS in a very short amount of time xWell, I do hope to make writing my future career and I do hope that I can make enough money from my writing that I am able to quit my other job(s). And I have come to understand in the last year, that if I don´t dedicate enough time to my writing, I´ll never be able to get there. It´s not always fun , I have to admit it, sometimes it´s like getting a tooth pulled, but the more I write, the more comfortable I begin to feel with my texts. It´s a long a winding road!
I think everyone's different in this aspect. Writing for me has always been a very difficult process. Only a handful of nights per book can I say that the words flowed out of me, not because I was forcing it, but because the act of writing is hard for me. I agree with @Quillwitch, sometimes writing is like pulling teeth.Don't say that, I only get a few hours at a time here or there dotted throughout the week. It's more about nor stressing over your writing I think, and allowing it to flow, because then you will write LOADS in a very short amount of time x
There are days I can't stop writing, and other days I'm staring out the window, contemplating something totally insane like how many teeth an armadillo has. LOL!! Of course, the fact that I'm too damn tired to think most days after working might have something to do with that…. My best writing zone seems to be early morning, which is why this crazy woman is up at 4AM, even on weekends. By noon, the brain is mush, and anything I write will only be rewritten the next morning anyway.I think everyone's different in this aspect. Writing for me has always been a very difficult process. Only a handful of nights per book can I say that the words flowed out of me, not because I was forcing it, but because the act of writing is hard for me. I agree with @Quillwitch, sometimes writing is like pulling teeth.
Props to you for waking up at 4AM! My brain doesn't work that early. The only times I'm up before 7 is if I need to go for a run but that's about all I can do. The earliest I've been able to write is about 10 AM; most days I'm writing between 6-11PM just because that's when I have free time.There are days I can't stop writing, and other days I'm staring out the window, contemplating something totally insane like how many teeth an armadillo has. LOL!! Of course, the fact that I'm too damn tired to think most days after working might have something to do with that…. My best writing zone seems to be early morning, which is why this crazy woman is up at 4AM, even on weekends. By noon, the brain is mush, and anything I write will only be rewritten the next morning anyway.
It took me two years to get used to it. Literally. Props to YOU for writing until 11 PM. I'm long asleep by then.Props to you for waking up at 4AM! My brain doesn't work that early. The only times I'm up before 7 is if I need to go for a run but that's about all I can do. The earliest I've been able to write is about 10 AM; most days I'm writing between 6-11PM just because that's when I have free time.
Can I ask what it is about the act that is hard for you? Is it the thinking of ideas or translating them from brain to page or loss of mojo or something else?
Can I ask what it is about the act that is hard for you? Is it the thinking of ideas or translating them from brain to page or loss of mojo or something else?
Yes yes and yes One thing I've done is to adopt the principles of NaNoWriMo in my writing - limited editing and if I run into a sentence or something that I just can't get right, I'll mark it (usually with ** so I can find it easily when I'm going back through my MS) and move on. That's been hard for me, but great for my writing. I've gotten past many a research-induced-distraction that way.The thinking of ideas is easy. The planning the stories is easy. The editing the stories is easy.
But the sitting down TO WRITE SOMETHING BRILLIANT RIGHT NOW freezes me.
I am, of course, aware, and have written on my blog, that no one writes anything brilliant in the first draft. It's still a block for me.
I've tried to trick my way around this lately by writing my stories longhand. I keep a longhand journal, and I never have any problems writing away in my journal because it's not formal. So I've been curling up on the couch with a notebook and trying to write fiction longhand so that my brain thinks I'm just scribbling instead of composing Great Literature.
So far, it works well.