• Café Life is the Colony's main hangout, watering hole and meeting point.

    This is a place where you'll meet and make writing friends, and indulge in stratospherically-elevated wit or barometrically low humour.

    Some Colonists pop in religiously every day before or after work. Others we see here less regularly, but all are equally welcome. Two important grounds rules…

    • Don't give offence
    • Don't take offence

    We now allow political discussion, but strongly suggest it takes place in the Steam Room, which is a private sub-forum within Café Life. It’s only accessible to Full Members.

    You can dismiss this notice by clicking the "x" box

Plot holes

Invest in You. Get Full Membership now.
Status
Not open for further replies.

RK Wallis

rk.wallis@myyahoo.com
Full Member
Blogger
Joined
Feb 15, 2019
Location
Australia
LitBits
10
Australia
Stick with me, there is a moral to my story.

I've been listening to Spinning Silver every morning since it was released (Before Spinning Silver, I listened to Uprooted over and over. I have also tried The Night Circus, but I keep returning to Spinning Silver - the narrator has such a lovely voice).

One thing I've noticed are the countless tiny plot holes in Spinning Silver, plot holes I never noticed on one or two reads. IMHO, they are inevitable beasts and authors need to accept that. The trick is to tell a story that is so captivating, readers won't even notice the plot holes because they're enjoying the story so much. That is a tough ask. That's hard, if not harder, than writing a story without plot holes.

The moral - embrace those little plot holes :) (that idea does make me nervous)

What do you do about them?
 
The trick is to tell a story that is so captivating, readers won't even notice the plot holes because they're enjoying the story so much.
I think that's the nub of it. The telling of the tale is as (more) important than the structure of it. Plot is logic. It's rarely where a story's emotion is found, and it's emotion that we remember, that moves us and makes a story stick in our minds long after we've closed the book (by which I mean our own emotional response, not the characters' emotions).

The logical satisfaction of slotting in the last puzzle piece can never match the emotional response to the picture you've made (unless it's a boring picture).
 
I've just been stopped in my tracks by a yawning chasm of a plot hole. Lots of gardening and dog-walks ensue, but I'm not sure there's a way around it.:(
 
I've just been stopped in my tracks by a yawning chasm of a plot hole. Lots of gardening and dog-walks ensue, but I'm not sure there's a way around it.:(

Eek, that's scary, I hope the gardening and dog walks help. If not, try sorting out by writing a synopsis? If it doesn't kill the writing process for you...
 
Invest in You. Get Full Membership now.
I think that's the nub of it. The telling of the tale is as (more) important than the structure of it. Plot is logic. It's rarely where a story's emotion is found, and it's emotion that we remember, that moves us and makes a story stick in our minds long after we've closed the book (by which I mean our own emotional response, not the characters' emotions).

The logical satisfaction of slotting in the last puzzle piece can never match the emotional response to the picture you've made (unless it's a boring picture).

Yes, finding those emotional pressure points isn't easy!
 
I believe someone like Ian Fleming (indeed it probably was Ian Fleming) said that if there's enough action, people don't have time to think about the plot holes. Doesn't work well for every genre, though.
 
Depends how big the hole is. I know that sounds daft – but if I'm walking along a road and there are a few wee dents and dinks, or even stones along the way, I don't mind so long as the road is taking me somewhere I want to go and I'm enjoying the view. But if there's a great big crack across the centre of the road and no one can be arsed to deal with it and mend it – well, I don't go down that road again.

I agree with Rich's point. But I think we need balance between forging a strong emotional connection with the reader and respecting them enough to try and make sure our stories make sense throughout, and that means paying attention to those pain-in-the-arse plot points that we took such care to seed along the way. Editors should pick up plot holes and, if there's time, they should be dealt with. Yes, I forgive writers for them, because it's almost impossible to keep everything in your head and tie it all up. But if it happened all the time, or if there were just too many in one book, I wouldn't read that writer again.
 
My struggle has been with making sure my plot is plausible, in relation to quite specific legal and social conventions in the 18th century. Part of me thinks no one else will know, but I will, and the holey self-doubt will eat into everything.
 
Invest in You. Get Full Membership now.
Status
Not open for further replies.

Further Articles from the Author Platform

Latest Articles By Litopians

  • Hat Thieves Beware
    Summer 2017… schools and nurseries were closed for the holidays, and the grandkids were kicking th ...
  • Writer Beware
    I think AI is inundating my email inbox with author scams. Apparently AI is somehow gathering data o ...
  • Bad advice
    I’ve been on X again. I know, I know. I need to stop, but something keeps drawing me back. Maybe i ...
  • Farty Towels?
    I’ve always found it strange that often the first thing guests ask me, when I check them in is, ...
  • Consequential Detritus
    Mars 20,025 Xenoarchaeological Survey Team Epsilon for Galactic Central Command Captain Mandible? Ye ...
  • The Writer’s House
    Bristol is one of my favourite cities. I visit here a few times a year, and the second part of my no ...
  • The Song of Bert and Harry: The Name of that Pub
    “We went for a pub meal last night,” Bert suddenly announced. “Nice place, all done out with ...
What Goes Around
Comes Around!
Back
Top