Katie-Ellen
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- Sep 25, 2014
Do we Dream of Writing A 'Mighty' Book?
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Hannah F
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- Jan 18, 2020
I think a mighty book could be anything from a tome to a novella. The 'mighty' would be how deeply it affects the reader, or how far it takes the reader into its world, especially emotionally.
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I think it's the readers who determine a might book. The author may think the theme is theirs, but if each person who reads it brings their own history to the story, the theme may skew one way or another for them.
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Julie
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- Feb 13, 2020
I don't think we call books 'mighty' nowadays; the term is dated. Don't we use words such as compelling; thought-provoking; thrilling; heart-warming? It seems we segment books with specific words according to genre: the bonkbuster; the literary masterpiece; the bible du jour; the classic romance, etc.
Mighty connotes strength in all its masculine proportions; biblical when we attach the word to God and then that leads further into semantics. It's a word that seems to bypass with brute force, all the nuanced variations we have in literature as well as the effects it has on the reader. It's a thrusting out-there word with its big doing. It doesn't address the inner feelings of literature aroused in the reader. Down with mighty.
Mighty connotes strength in all its masculine proportions; biblical when we attach the word to God and then that leads further into semantics. It's a word that seems to bypass with brute force, all the nuanced variations we have in literature as well as the effects it has on the reader. It's a thrusting out-there word with its big doing. It doesn't address the inner feelings of literature aroused in the reader. Down with mighty.
Katie-Ellen
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Down with a word, in this case, mighty, as non-germane in a discussion about writing? I'd rather open things up, really, than close them down.
The quote was of its time. Of course it's old-fashioned. Dated, absolutely, and nowadays we'd probably choose other words, epic or monumental or classic, but I don't see why it is limited in suggestion to themes of masculine proportions of strength. We may think of a mighty warrior, but a mighty warrior could be Brunnhilde or Hippolyta. Or we may think of a mighty orator, poet, artist, stone, mountain, river....ocean...storm....or a mighty problem or puzzle or conundrum.
I think of a digital publication called The Mighty, which talks about living with disability. 'Mighty' is not quite yet defunct.
@Hannah F observes, even a very slender book can be an epic. Totally. The Little Prince or Jonathan Livingstone Seagull come to mind.
Dorothy Dunnett's King Hereafter is a doorstop of a book. I'm in awe of the writer's sheer physical achievement, and wonder how, at what point in her thinking, what was the driver, the trigger, such that she decided to embark on such an immense fiction project?
This is a modern epic, or what Melville might have called mighty. portrayal of MacBeth as the man the history books suggest he really might have been, once we get away from Shakespeare, not forgetting who was his patron. But it is every bit as much the story of Lady MacBeth too, Gruoch. Themes; the power of land, the nature of power, the cost of power, the nature and power of love- and hate. Lady MacBeth tries to kill him, and he says, can it be possible you do not know I love you?
Romanticism was a movement in two disguises. There was the green and rolling Picturesque, and there was the craggy, looming Sublime, specifically characterized as androgynous, rather than inherently masculine. I guess Melville meant by 'mighty' to suggest the Sublime, and it is the sheer scope and scale of the vision that makes it epic- mighty. , the breadth of scene, the complexity of events, the depth of research but above all the emotional intensity and depth, as with Ahab's fateful obsession for the whale - and the whale's long memory.
"For Romantics, the sublime is a meeting of the subjective-internal (emotional) and the objective-external (natural world): we allow our emotions to overwhelm our rationality as we experience the wonder of creation. ... Because the sublime is emotional, it is traditionally considered something one must experience alone."
Hamnett, I thought was very good. Epic? Mighty? Maybe but I'm not sure. Is it deep? Yes, very. So why not? Others may well disagree, but perhaps because it is domestic, not panoramic in scale, and timeless but intimate in focus.
The quote was of its time. Of course it's old-fashioned. Dated, absolutely, and nowadays we'd probably choose other words, epic or monumental or classic, but I don't see why it is limited in suggestion to themes of masculine proportions of strength. We may think of a mighty warrior, but a mighty warrior could be Brunnhilde or Hippolyta. Or we may think of a mighty orator, poet, artist, stone, mountain, river....ocean...storm....or a mighty problem or puzzle or conundrum.
I think of a digital publication called The Mighty, which talks about living with disability. 'Mighty' is not quite yet defunct.
@Hannah F observes, even a very slender book can be an epic. Totally. The Little Prince or Jonathan Livingstone Seagull come to mind.
Dorothy Dunnett's King Hereafter is a doorstop of a book. I'm in awe of the writer's sheer physical achievement, and wonder how, at what point in her thinking, what was the driver, the trigger, such that she decided to embark on such an immense fiction project?
This is a modern epic, or what Melville might have called mighty. portrayal of MacBeth as the man the history books suggest he really might have been, once we get away from Shakespeare, not forgetting who was his patron. But it is every bit as much the story of Lady MacBeth too, Gruoch. Themes; the power of land, the nature of power, the cost of power, the nature and power of love- and hate. Lady MacBeth tries to kill him, and he says, can it be possible you do not know I love you?
Romanticism was a movement in two disguises. There was the green and rolling Picturesque, and there was the craggy, looming Sublime, specifically characterized as androgynous, rather than inherently masculine. I guess Melville meant by 'mighty' to suggest the Sublime, and it is the sheer scope and scale of the vision that makes it epic- mighty. , the breadth of scene, the complexity of events, the depth of research but above all the emotional intensity and depth, as with Ahab's fateful obsession for the whale - and the whale's long memory.
"For Romantics, the sublime is a meeting of the subjective-internal (emotional) and the objective-external (natural world): we allow our emotions to overwhelm our rationality as we experience the wonder of creation. ... Because the sublime is emotional, it is traditionally considered something one must experience alone."
Hamnett, I thought was very good. Epic? Mighty? Maybe but I'm not sure. Is it deep? Yes, very. So why not? Others may well disagree, but perhaps because it is domestic, not panoramic in scale, and timeless but intimate in focus.
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Julie
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- Feb 13, 2020
@Katie-Ellen I wasn’t trying to close the discussion down - only offering another perspective to ponder. In turn, you have responded with an eloquent argument.
I shall look up Dunnett; I’ve not read Hereafter.
I shall look up Dunnett; I’ve not read Hereafter.
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I'm always awed by Ken Follett. He tackled multiple themes in Pillars of the Earth and was only 40. To me, that's a mighty book, not just for its size, but also the way he confronted harsh moral dilemmas - putting his characters in difficult circumstances, ones we imagine they could have faced in a historical UK i.e. what circumstances can drive a good man and husband to abandon his baby? That scene has to be one of the most memorable and heartbreaking scenes I've read in fiction.
Hannah F
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- Jan 18, 2020
Jonathan Livingstone Seagull was indeed a mighty book for the young teenage me. It taught me that it was ok to be different even when that different path was frowned upon. It still sits on my bookshelf, much loved by its mere presence there.
- Jun 22, 2020
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